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Post by Ms. English on May 30, 2023 7:54:00 GMT -5
Post your answers to the discussion question here. Make sure to read the responses of those posted before you and respond directly to them when appropriate before posting your own. Connections: Rose is put on the vocational track accidentally and remains there for two years because his parents are unequipped to help him. Compare his responses to the particular learning environment in which he found himself with those of Sherman Alexie in "The Joy of Reading and Writing: Superman and Me" (link below). How does it feel to each? What larger significance does each find in the experience? What connections can you find between the larger meanings each writer reflects upon?www.teach4real.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/The-Joy-of-Reading-and-Writing.pdf
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Post by brynn on Jul 18, 2023 10:46:48 GMT -5
Mike Rose and Sherman Alexie both write about experiences in school with a system that expected them to fail. Mike Rose was put in the vocational track which is meant for students who don't do well in school but in his school ended up being a place to put the students who were all failing and a place where the teachers didn't really expect a lot of them. Sherman Alexie was expected to do bad in school because he is Native American even though he was reading much more advanced books than his peers, even in kindergarten. Both had teachers who didn't believe they could achieve much academically but while Rose became less motivated by this, Alexie pushed even harder. In both their writings they write about how they came to see knowledge as a powerful tool in life, Mike Rose says that knowledge he was pushed to acquire by a teacher in his senior year of high school was a way to live beyond the limiting boundaries of what was expected of him while Sherman Alexie says that the knowledge he was getting through the many books he read in elementary school and beyond was to save his life.
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Post by johnhawver on Aug 1, 2023 17:07:30 GMT -5
Rose and Alexie both got put into a different school system than they were expected or should have gone to. Rose accidentally got put in a system with less academically talented kids, and turned into a bad student, but when the error was corrected and he was put into college prep classes, he became a better student. Alexie got put in a more talented group who expected him to be dumb because of his race. Rose was with a dangerous group of kids who did drugs and fought. Both did not really fit in and were uncomfortable. The larger significance that they find is that the school system needs to believe more in the kids they teach and not dismiss their potential. One school system dismissed Alexie's potential because of a stereotype, and the other dismissed Rose's potential because they thought he was dumb. If these systems would have had more belief in their students. they both could have done better, even Alexie who relied on himself for his education because he believed in himself to an extent. Alexie is a hero in his own right, because of his recognition of how society saw Native Americans, how his tribe lived, and then going back and helping other Native Americans by writing literature.
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Post by rubydrzick on Aug 27, 2023 22:28:44 GMT -5
mike rose and Sherman alexie were both placed into a school system they did not expect nor did they feel like they belonged in. rose was put into a school with people that essentially didn't do well in school. rose was hanging out with people that did not always make the right choices or do the best things and it made rose super uncomfortable, rose had always felt that they were a good student however he was placed into a school system that didn't see or use his potential. alexie was shamed for a stereotype and therefore was not giving the same opportunities to succeed like the other kids around. if both the school systems decided they wanted to do better and believe in their students and help them they could have both been in good schools for their qualities.
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