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Post by Ellie Reeves on Aug 17, 2023 20:44:58 GMT -5
The sentence “Students will float to the mark you set” in paragraph 11 of I just want to be average means that the expectations that are placed on students are what they will achieve. If a teacher expects very little, then the students will do the bare minimum, however in the same sense, if a teacher expects students to give their all, they will. I have related throughout my education, especially the older I get. In kamsc the teachers expect a lot of dedication and effort into every assignment but in some of the non-ap Loy Norrix classes, they expect much less. As a student, I follow the guidelines that are set for me. The tough classes push me to do more than I originally thought I could as a student. Motivations in our education are mainly put on by parents and teachers via grades and I feel as though that works for me. Additionally, there is a sense of achievement that comes with good grades that causes me to push myself. While it may not work for everyone, a more specialized education that allows you to focus on the classes that you are thinking of pursuing instead of required classes may help motivate more students.
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Post by jirehm on Aug 18, 2023 22:44:23 GMT -5
The quote "Students will float to the mark you set," means students will only go as far as the expectation you have set for them. An example is if a teacher assigned an annotation assignment that was not for credit but it would help you better understand the reading 90% of students would not do it. A time in my life, when this quote was accurate for me, was in Honors English 10 with Ms.Bowser. Ms.Bowser was an adamant and strict teacher to me personally, She expected us to read the destinated reading for that day no matter what or you would suffer the consequence of being behind. There were many nights that I did not read the readings and ended up being 10 chapters behind at one point. It wasn't until she had to take 3 weeks off for surgery. Without her being there and me realizing there wasn't gonna be anybody on me pushing me to do my work I started raising her expectations.
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Post by Isabella Johnson on Aug 19, 2023 8:06:52 GMT -5
In I Just Want to be Average Rose writes “Students will float to the mark you set” which to me is very true because no matter if the mark is low or high I will reach it. Some marks have been set very low like in my health class where we had all trimester to finish 4 little assignments he had given us and sometimes the mark is really high where I have to complete a whole essay in an hour just off the top of my head. Both of those things are very different from each other but also both can be reached with the right mindset and the right goals for yourself. Students have all different types of ways to motivate themselves but something that works for me is making a list of what I need to do and how much each of them will affect me. Sometimes I think that certain teachers forget that their students not only have marks that they set to reach but other marks from other teachers that they are also trying to reach at the same time. I tried to look out for the teachers that held us to higher expectations that others and did their work more thoroughly and put the most effort into them and I looked out for the teachers who didn’t seem to hold such high expectations and did their work when I had time and still put effort in but mostly just getting it done to check one more thing off the list. I don’t think this is bad I think it is using things to your advantage. I’m a very grade motivated person because my parents are very specific about my grades and want nothing lower than a B which is reasonable for me and I respect them holding a standard for me. I am also someone who strives for not only academic validation but also teacher validation. When a teacher tells me I’m doing a good just or writes a little note on my paper telling me what I did good it makes me want to continue doing good. I think more kids would strive to be good if teachers pointed out one thing they did good on for every assignment and test they turned in. They could have gotten a good grade or maybe a not so good grade but students want to be appreciated for the work they’ve accomplished.
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Post by odessapersephone on Aug 19, 2023 18:11:38 GMT -5
When Mike Rose writes that "Students will float to the mark you set," he implies that students will (for the most part) do what is expected of them; if they are placed in a class with minimal expectations they will not exceed them, when there is a lot expected of them they will try their best not to fall short. Even if they don't necessarily achieve the highest level, they will strive for it. In my experience this is not always true, I've had many friends who fall above or below what is expected of them, however, I have just as many who meet what is expected; there is definitely a spectrum. A time I when I floated "to the mark" a teacher had set was my freshman year. My freshman year was online and it was also the first year I had ever been at a public school. Because I didn't know what was the "average" course for students, I assumed I should take the normal freshman classes. I ended up in English not, honors, not AP, just normal English. This isn't a bad thing, but as someone who loves to read and had taken more advanced courses before, it was really easy. I ended up pretty easily rising to the assignments and on occasion exceeding what was expected. My teacher realized this, and put me in a more advanced english class where it would take a little more for me to "float to the mark". At the end of the day, I ended up being at the right level, however, if I didn't have a teacher that realized that the class wasn't challenging for me, I never would have ended up in a class that I was learning in. I don't think I've ever had a class where what was expected of me seemed impossible, generally classes (even AP courses) have pretty achievable goals, although I've heard that at KAMSC it is a different story. Systems built for motivating students include: grades/class rank, competition, and college (or higher education opportunities.) These generally have worked to motivate me, however, not everyone cares about those things. I think a better way to motivate people to learn is to cater class selection to their interests, that way they are studying something they are genuinely curious about.
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Post by Emerson on Aug 20, 2023 16:59:29 GMT -5
The quote "Students will float to the mark you set" means that students will change how much effort they put in depending on the standards you set for them. I found that with the right motivation and teacher, there was a time that I exceeded what I thought was possible for myself. One specific moment was getting a 5 on my AP exam. I never thought that I would be able to get even close to that, but now seeing that putting in hard work can be beneficial and rewarding I hold myself to a higher stander for my future AP classes. I think that grades are a big part of the motivation system that is built into our educational system. I think that this has been a successful motivator for me because a lot of people view grades as being very important so I try hard in class to be able to maintain them.
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Post by morganhall on Aug 20, 2023 18:31:48 GMT -5
Throughout my years of education I have always felt there was an expectation that I must reach, set by my parents, but also having to follow in my brother's footsteps. My high school experience has been led by the constant need of an A and a high gpa. I'm expected to do all my assignments and score well. I think as a student, I have floated to the mark set by my family and my teachers. I've noticed that when parents, or students, don't set their own expectations they fall behind or don't care. My mom has always been hardworking and successful and that has been passed down. Growing up around someone to look up to is a huge motivation to be your best and to do your best. In our school it is very easy to lose motivation to do work, and it could be so much easier to skip a boring class. I think it'd be helpful if teachers made the class fun, and unique. Like if we stopped sitting around listening to lectures all day. It's easy to forget what you learn when everyday blends together because you're on a constant loop.
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Post by Jayde Hayworth on Aug 20, 2023 18:32:07 GMT -5
The phrase, “Students will float to the mark,” describes how most students' work ethic is achieved; if a teacher were to set higher expectations and goals in the classroom, then those students would most likely “float” to that standard, whereas if the expectations were lower, then they would “float” down to that standard. A time in my life where this was true to me was sophomore year, when I did AP U.S. History and had a more challenging Honors English class. In both of these classes the standard was set much higher than before, meaning that I had to step up and achieve these tasks that were assigned so I could meet the higher standards that my teachers had set. I do think that my educational choices have pushed me to a place where I never thought I would be, and they have shown me that I am capable of facing more challenging and stressful situations that I might have to deal with in the future. Built in motivation for me is to achieve good grades in hopes of getting into a good college, and living a better life than before. I think that the Kalamazoo Promise is very motivating to many students, as it helps a lot with feeling confident in their future.
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Post by eidenjonaitis on Aug 21, 2023 7:28:07 GMT -5
Mike Rose, in his story "'I Just Wanna Be Average'", writes that "Students will float to the mark that [teachers] set" (par. 11). In my experience, at least up until enrolling in the classes that the Kalamazoo Area Math and Science Center offers, teachers have never truly set a high mark for me to meet. However, through the super high standards I set for myself, I've been able to achieve academic things I did not think I could accomplish. The motivation built into the school system that we participate in is, no matter how much they'd like it to be intrinsic as well, solely extrinsic. Good grades, gold stars, smiley faces next to test scores, a good GPA, etc. All of these are rewards for doing something that should be instilled in us: learning and applying knowledge. Focusing on the external rewards we receive takes the purpose of schooling out of one's mind and just leaves people to only motivate themselves to get that A. Do not get me wrong, this motivation has worked very well for me in the past, but I think that's just because I mix it with my motivation to learn and grow as a person. A schooling system that mixes these two motivation types would be ideal; that being said, I wouldn't have a suggestion.
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Post by cameronshaffer on Aug 21, 2023 22:25:14 GMT -5
The phrase "students will float to the mark you set" by Mike Rose means that students will only push themselves to the expectation that is given to them. In my life I have noticed that this is true because I have had some "easy" classes that ended up being my worst grades because I wouldn't put in the same effort that I would in my harder classes like AP classes and KAMSC classes. I think that teachers need to reinforce good habits and help motivate the students to do quality work all the time and not take time off just because an assignment isn't worth as many points or percent. I think that grades alone do work for some people but not everyone since students have different priorities, for me, grades have always been super important so that alone is usually enough motivation for me to do my best on my assignments throughout the year.
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Post by Maya Alvarez on Aug 23, 2023 21:50:03 GMT -5
The line "students will float to the mark you set" from Mike Rose's,"I Just Wanna Be Average" implies that a student can only go as far as an educator sets their expectation to. Students will exceed if high expectations are set and personally, I find this true in my experience. In some of my classes at Loy Norrix, some tend to be very chill and do not require homework, required reading, or any outside of class work. In class, we may just sit, talk and lose focus on work and do not have productive days. This happens due to the standard a teacher sets, as well as their expectation & consistency. If there is a culture of being focused and on task in a particular class, classmates all will follow because this expectation is set by the teacher. There will be no tolerance for anything less, forcing students to rise. In some of my Advanced Placement (AP) classes, such as AP U.S. History, was held at a high standard of weekly reading, daily discussion and participation. Enforcing a high level of productivity & engagement each day allows for maximum growth. I've learned the most from teachers that hold high expectations, leaving me to rise to the challenge.
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Post by leahsparks on Aug 26, 2023 13:35:17 GMT -5
The phrase "students will float to the mark you set," from Mike Rose's "I Just Wanna Be Average" means that a person or student will only work to the mark that has been set for them. If you set a low mark for a student, they will do the least amount of work to reach that mark, because it is so low. That is what Rose did in school. Since he was on the vocational track, there were low expectations for him, so he did not try very hard in school. In my personal experiences, I haven't really been pushed to exceed what I thought. Last year I took very easy classes except for APUSH. However since the rest of my classes were so simple, I would often leave early because I didn't even need to be there to know what was going on. My only motivation to go to APUSH along with the rest of my classes was my grades. I feel like the only real motivation in school is good grades, because you want to impress your peers, your teacher, or your parents. The only reason I have tried to do well in school is so that I get good grades in return. I guess I don't really know what kind of motivational system would work for all students, because everyone learns and works at a different pace, and certain motivations help some students, but not all.
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Post by Leland Wagner on Aug 26, 2023 20:08:49 GMT -5
In "I Just Wanna be Average" by Mike Rose, Rose uses the phrase "Students will float to the mark you set". The quote used means that the expectation a teacher puts on a student will either be met or the expectations will be underwhelming and not met. A time in my life where this quote played true was with coming into high school. Throughout middle school I had always set high expectations to hold myself to like having work in on time and done with even sometimes a little extra thrown in there to get extra credit. But when it came to high school the classes became harder and the workload became larger with after school clubs and activities. So now my mind became more time oriented instead of the perfectionistic look on assignments. Which comes with good and bad traits associated like better time management and set schedules, but it also comes with work that's just done and not re-read or overlooked.
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Post by Lily Longtin on Aug 27, 2023 12:29:36 GMT -5
In the essay "I Just Wanna Be Average," Mike Rose uses the phrase "students will float to the mark you set." I believe this means that depending on how much encouragement or expectations a teacher has for their students can affect their grades and how hard they try in class. In my life this quote is true, my KAMSC and AP teachers usually hold high expectations for their students and that shows in how I get the work done on time and don't slack off. However, in my regular classes at Norrix I may tend to have a missing assignment or two because the teacher may not hold too high of expectations for the students and there are no consequences to turning things in late.
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Post by sayanij on Aug 27, 2023 16:26:57 GMT -5
One time the quote “students will float to the mark you set” was true to me was in 9th grade weightlifting class. The teacher of that class, Coach Duckett, is known to have high and strict expectations for his students and especially ones he knows are athletes. In this case one of the requirements to pass the class was to get 30 reps on the bench press test. In the beginning of that trimester he made it known so we could all work throughout the trimester to be able to pass. I think that traditional motivation from my parents and their expectations for me has allowed me to work the hardest and do the best I can in my educational career because I want to please them. I think one thing that we could implement into our educational system that could motivate all students is by having more prizes and special events for the students that achieve a certain academic mark. I think we are decent at doing this in our school but I think there should be more events and prizes and make it more known throughout the school year of what to do to be able to get those things.
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Post by Jisela Albarran-Trujillo on Aug 29, 2023 20:33:27 GMT -5
The phrase ¨Students will float to the mark you set¨ means that students will either succeed of fail depending on the expectations teachers set for them. This has happened in my life recently in the 10th grade. I had to take an ESL class to help my English pronunciation and writing skills. I always thought that my English was as good as it was going to get until my ESL teacher made me listen in class and would send me to the detention room if I didn't listen. Her discipline made me realize that all she ever wanted was to help me bring out the best within myself. She always pushed me and motivated me to go beyond my limits and be confident within myself. Thanks to her high standards and pushing me out of my comfort zone she made me realize that I can go past what I think my limits are. Some types of encouragement within our education system are having perfect attendance which not only help us in school but we can attend fun events like rally's. Also having good grades and maintaining them lets you play in school sports teams and more. Traditional motivation such as getting good grades, meeting my goals, and meeting my moms expectations have kept me pushing myself to complete work and try my best in school. I feel like creating a positive and inclusive learning environment where students feel supported and valued could motivate students in the educational system.
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